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Kenneth Feld
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Posted - 2016.01.29 13:29:18 -
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Luthor Ikkala wrote:Hey there fellow industrialists!
Been looking around for info about med citadel. Have i understood it correcrtly that im not able to fit factory in it?
yes, no, sort of
The factory service module will not be released until the second structure release in the fall, when Assembly arrays and Research hubs are released. At that point the service module will go into a Citadel, but it isn't that you can't fit it in a citadel, it is more that it won't be in the game until Assembly arrays are put in, and at that point, why would you want to build unbonused? |

Kenneth Feld
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Posted - 2016.01.30 02:58:46 -
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OK, lemme break it down
9 new structures
Citadels are the first
They are set up like ships, High, med, low slots, plus rig slots
PLUS, they have service module slots - the bigger the structure - the more service slots it has. These are also the ONLY thing that takes fuel to use.
The service modules being released day 1 are as follows: Reprocessing Compression Market Cloning
The following service module will be released later and are CLEARLY laid out in the initial dev blog Manufacturing - but they are pretty granular - no, I won't explain - read the damn blog |

Kenneth Feld
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Posted - 2016.01.30 20:12:17 -
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Luthor Ikkala wrote:I read the blog and thats why om here asking and hoping someone could have more in detail idea or knowledge about the service modules i can fit into med citadel. From the blog i got the impression i could t fit factory module into med citadel.
FFS I NEVER said you couldn't fit one, what i said is there won't be one in game to fit in it
There is a distinct difference
The actual module won't be released in game until the assembly arrays are released. At that point installing one in a citadel is just a waste of isk, but you can do it if you are so inclined. |

Kenneth Feld
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Posted - 2016.01.30 20:13:37 -
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Incestuous Criticism wrote:Well this is interesting and timely thread. So there will be modules for moon harvesting which would indicate that a citadel will need to be assembled at every moon to replace POS. Do other people understand this the way I do or am I off track.
For some reason I thought citadel will be like a station (yep) and then modules can be used as independent structures, therefore like Mobile Depots, setup near a moon and away they go which means the actual citadel had no requirement to be near moons.
I guess I will just have to wait and see.
**** Disregard - there is another post on the same subject and it just contains speculation. Looks like no information is available at this stage that has clear answers. ****
No moon module have been announced yet, only the original blog with the concept of what a drilling platform does
The original dev blog is INCREDIBLY clear - look up drilling platforms |

Kenneth Feld
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Posted - 2016.01.31 23:24:52 -
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Incestuous Criticism wrote:Kenneth Feld wrote:Incestuous Criticism wrote:Well this is interesting and timely thread. So there will be modules for moon harvesting which would indicate that a citadel will need to be assembled at every moon to replace POS. Do other people understand this the way I do or am I off track.
For some reason I thought citadel will be like a station (yep) and then modules can be used as independent structures, therefore like Mobile Depots, setup near a moon and away they go which means the actual citadel had no requirement to be near moons.
I guess I will just have to wait and see.
**** Disregard - there is another post on the same subject and it just contains speculation. Looks like no information is available at this stage that has clear answers. **** No moon module have been announced yet, only the original blog with the concept of what a drilling platform does The original dev blog is INCREDIBLY clear - look up drilling platforms You are a special monkey then. A concept of a drilling platform is just that a concept. It maybe clear that this is what they are considering, but it is not clear the what, how, when and how much side of things.
The part that is clear is that it won't be citadels as the OP was asking about
That being said, the mechanic for passive income will most likely be shifting to active
We have been discussing it informally on slack, but it is still approx 12 months away most likely
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Kenneth Feld
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Posted - 2016.02.01 11:26:53 -
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erg cz wrote:Right now T3 stuff requires POS to be invented. If medium citadels will not allow to use service modules needed, we will see T3 prices going up...
Why?
POS aren't going anywhere Outposts aren't going anywhere Statoins aren't changing....
What arbitrary thing could possibly cause T3 to rise?
If you are talking about the eventual removal of POS and Outpost, neither will be removed until ALL features are duplicated. Citadels are the first of 9 new structures, the research hubs will have research, invention, copying etc available.
I would estime pos removal sometime in 2018 if i had to guess.... |

Kenneth Feld
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Posted - 2016.02.04 21:34:53 -
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erg cz wrote:Kenneth Feld wrote:erg cz wrote:Right now T3 stuff requires POS to be invented. If medium citadels will not allow to use service modules needed, we will see T3 prices going up... Why? POS aren't going anywhere Outposts aren't going anywhere Statoins aren't changing.... What arbitrary thing could possibly cause T3 to rise? If you are talking about the eventual removal of POS and Outpost, neither will be removed until ALL features are duplicated. Citadels are the first of 9 new structures, the research hubs will have research, invention, copying etc available. I would estime pos removal sometime in 2018 if i had to guess.... POS will be replaced by citadels. Here you can see, that there is no possibility to have research lab in medium citadel. So small manufactors will be out of the game. You need to invest 8-10 bilion ISK to be able to produce T3 in large citadel.
NO NO NO NO NO and you are just plain wrong
POS are not being replaced by anything, they are being removed from the game - think 2018
You build in assembly arrays - think fall 2017 You research, invent, copy etc in research labs - think fall 2017
There are 9 new structures, Citadels are the first and are meant to be market hubs
POS or Outposts won't be removed until ALL of their features are duplicated in a new structure, which may be a citadel or one of the other 8 new structures. |
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